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# Suckless
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Suckless, software that sucks less, is a type of [free](free_software.md) [software](software.md), as well as an organization (http://suckless.org/), that tries to adhere to a high technological [minimalism](minimalism.md), freedom and hackability, and opposes so called [bloat](bloat.md) and unnecessary complexity which has been creeping into most "[modern](modern.md)" software and by which technology has started to become less useful and more burdening. It is related to [Unix philosophy](unix_philosophy.md) and [KISS](kiss.md) but brings some new ideas onto the table. [LRS](lrs.md) builds on top of suckless ideas.
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Suckless, software that sucks less, is a type of [free](free_software.md) [software](software.md), as well as an organization (http://suckless.org/), that tries to adhere to a high technological [minimalism](minimalism.md), freedom and [hackability](hacking.md), and opposes so called [bloat](bloat.md) and unnecessary complexity which has been creeping into most "[modern](modern.md)" software and by which technology has started to become less useful and more burdening. It is related to [Unix philosophy](unix_philosophy.md) and [KISS](kiss.md) but brings some new ideas onto the table. [LRS](lrs.md) builds on top of suckless ideas.
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Suckless is pretty cool, it has inspired LRS, but watch out, as with most of the few promising things nowadays it is half cool and half shitty -- for example most suckless followers seem to be [rightists](leve_vs_right.md) and [capitalists](capitalism.md) who are motivated by [harmful](harmful.md) goals such as their own increased [productivity](productivity_cult.md), not by altruism. LRS fixes this, we only take the good ideas of suckless.
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The community is relatively a small niche but has also seen a growth in popularity sometime in 2010s, thanks to tech youtubers such as [Luke Smith](luke_smith.md), [Distro Tube](distro_tube.md) and [Mental Outlaw](mental_outlaw.md). It has also gained traction on [4chan](4chan.md)'s technology board. While consisting a lot of expert programmers and [hackers](hacker.md) mostly interested in systems like [GNU](gnu.md)/[Linux](linux.md), [BSDs](bsd.md) and [Plan 9](plan9.md), a lot of less skilled "[Linux](linux.md)" users and even complete non-programmers have started to use suckless to various degrees -- [dwm](dwm.md) has for example seen a great success among "Unix porn" lovers and chronic [ricers](ricing.md). While some members are hardcore minimalists and apply their principles to everything, some just cherry pick programs they find nice and integrate them in their otherwise bloated systems.
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Notable suckless promoters on mainstream social media include [Luke Smith](luke_smith.md), [DistroTube](distrotube.md) and [Mental Outlaw](mental_outlaw.md).
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Suckless is pretty cool, it has inspired LRS, but watch out, as with most of the few promising things nowadays it is half cool and half shitty -- for example most suckless followers seem to be [rightists](levf_vs_right.md) and [capitalists](capitalism.md) who are motivated by [harmful](harmful.md) goals such as their own increased [productivity](productivity_cult.md), not by altruism. LRS fixes this, we only take the good ideas of suckless.
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{ From what it seems to me, the "official" suckless community is largely quiet and closed, leading conversations mostly on mailing lists and focusing almost exclusively on the development of their software without politics, activism and off topics, probably because they consider it bullshit that would only be distracting. There is also suckless subreddit which is similarly mostly focused on the software alone. They let their work speak. Some accuse the community of being Nazis, however I believe this is firstly irrelevant and secondly mostly false accusations of haters, even if we find a few Nazis among them, just as in any community. Most pro-suckless people I've met were actually true socialists (while Nazis are not socialist despite their name). Unlike [tranny software](tranny_software.md), suckless software itself doesn't promote any politics, it is a set of purely functional tools, so the question of the developers' private opinions is unimportant here. Suckless ideas are good regardless of whose brains they came from. ~drummyfish }
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- Mainly using two [programming languages](programming_language.md): **[C](c.md)** (C89 or C99) for compiled programs and **[POSIX shell](posix_shell.md)** for scripting.
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- **[Forking](fork.md) and [compiling](compiling.md) by default**, software is distributed in source format (no binaries), every user is supposed to create a personal customized fork and compile/customize the software himself.
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- Mods (extension/addons) are implemented and distributed as **[patch](patch.md) files**. The idea is to fork the base version of the software and then apply patches to make a unique, completely personalized version of the software.
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- **Typical upper limit for [lines of code](loc.md) of about 10k**, mostly just about 1-2k.
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- **Typical upper limit for [lines of code](loc.md) of about 10k**, mostly just about 1-2k. This makes software easy to understand, modify, fork and maintain.
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- **Focus on the technology itself** without mixing it with [politics](politics.md) and other [bullshit](bs.md) such as [COCs](coc.md).
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- Not aiming for mainstream popularity, being a bit of an **elite club**, in the good sense -- suckless is for expert users who understand, handle and create non-mainstream technology without handholding. Trying to be normie friendly would just lead to software and community that looks like the mainstream software and its community.
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Some time before 2010 suckless developed [stali](stali.md), a statically linked [glibc](glibc.md)-less ["Linux distro"](distro.md) that was based on the idea that [dynamic linking](dynamic_linking.md) is [harmful](harmful.md) and that [static linking](static_linking.md) is mostly advantageous. It also came with suckless software by default. This project was made independent and split from suckless in 2018 by Garbe.
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In 2012 a core veteran member of suckless, [Uriel](uriel.md), has killed himself and became a [meme](meme.md).
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In 2012 a core veteran member of suckless, a Spanish guy nicknamed [Uriel](uriel.md), has killed himself and became a [meme](meme.md).
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## Projects
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- [surf](surf.md)
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- [stali](stali.md)
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However there are many more, check out their website.
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However there are many more ([IRC](irc.md) clients, file formats, presentation software, ...), check out their website.
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