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Diogenes

"The most beautiful thing in the world is freedom of speech." --Diogenes

Diogenes (412 BC - 323 BC) was one of the biggest ancient Greek philosophers, the best known proponent of Cynicism and one of the absolutely most based men in history as by his philosophy he practiced extreme life minimalism (he lived in a barrel), asketicism, self-sufficiency, nonconformism, he refused to work, refused all authority, criticised absolutely everything and was always extremely logically consistent and behaved in accordance to what he taught, which is really what makes all his critics -- mostly just big hypocrite pussies -- so greatly pissed; the philosophy of Diogenes is quite close to our own ideals. The word "cynic" itself comes from a word for "dog" and indeed, Diogenes lived as one, he just roamed the streets, didn't give a shit about anything, preached his wisdom, he basically didn't own anything as he believed possession only enslaves us and that everything we need is already there in the nature. He didn't want fame, wealth power of possession, he wanted freedom, spiritual and moral purity, he wanted to let go of absolutely all bullshit. He was also pretty funny, reading about him is really on the level of 4chan humor, more than 2000 years ahead of his time. Diogenes wrote some stuff, most famously his Republic describing an ideal society, however none of his writings sadly survived, we now only know what others have written about him (there are possibly some recounts of the works who have read them). Let's remember we shouldn't call him a hero, that would itself contradict both his and our philosophy, but if we are to see anyone as a good inspiration and moral example, Diogenes is among the best (well, at least in most things, it goes without saying we can't absolutely embrace everything someone ever did).

Some famous and/or interesting things he did (or at least is said to have done):

  • He lived in a barrel with his only possession being a bowl which he later threw away because someone showed him he could actually drink using just bare hands.
  • He didn't work, just begged.
  • He walked with a lantern in crowds of people, saying he was "looking for a man". By this he implied all those around weren't even worth being called people. { There seems to be a widespread inaccuracy in translations that say he was looking for "honest man", but apparently he just said "man", i.e. literally just human. ~drummyfish }
  • He masturbated in public. When asked why, he replied: "If only I could satisfy hunger by rubbing my belly!" { Based. ~drummyfish }
  • When asked where he was from, he always answered "I am citizen of the world", using the word cosmopolitan (he's credited for coining it). By this he gave a huge fuck you to nationalism.
  • He just shat, pissed and farted wherever he wanted, he was stealing without shame, he would eat where it was forbidden to eat, e.g. in Plato's lectures. He also didn't restrain from always saying what he was thinking, he did zero self censorship.
  • As he became quite famous, Alexander the Great himself (the biggest boss in the world at the time) came to meet him and asked if he could do anything for him, Diogenes just replied "yeah, get out of my sunlight". It impressed even Alexander who allegedly said "If I weren't Alexander, I would be Diogenes". Another of their dialogue went like this: Alexander: "Are you not afraid of me?", Diogenes: "Why? Are you good or bad?", Alexander: "I am good!", Diogenes: "Well then, who is afradid of the good?".
  • Being asked what the most beuatiful thing in the world was, he replied "freedom of speech". { Sauce: the book Lives of the Eminent Philosophers. ~drummyfish }
  • When he was dying he said after death he just wanted to be thrown to animals to be eaten. { I'm thinking of actually writing this in my will. ~drummfish }
  • When asked why he was begging when Plato wasn't, he said "He is too, he just holds his head down so it can't be heard."
  • LULZ (not embraced but funny): Once he was asking some man for fruit, the man said "I'll give it to you if you can persuade me". Diogenes said: "If I could persuade you, I would persuade you to hang yourself".
  • ...

His life in short summary: he was born probably 412 BC in Sinope (Turkey) to Hicesius, a money changer, then he got into trouble for devalving the currency with his father so he left the city and went to Athens where he became the pupil of Antisthenes. He started to live in a tub belonging to the temple of Cybele. He hated Plato's philosophy, called it shite and disrupted his lectures on purpose e.g. by eating there or asking weird questions -- he also had some funny conversations and troll moments with him, like when he offered him some figs and when Plato ate them, Diogenes was like "Bruh, I thought you would share them, not eat them all". When travelling to Aegina he was captured by pirates and sold as a slave to Xeniades, a man living in Corinth. Being a greatly educated slave, Xeniades actually made Diogenes a teacher of his two sons, and Diogenes didn't live such a bad life, he could still preach his philosophy and indeed he did, until he died in 323 BC -- it is said he died on the same day as Alexander the Great. They erected a pillar with marble dog in honor of Diogenes.

Why was he so based you ask? Most normies don't get this, they are like "shit in public = bad" or "no werk = steal" etc., it just shows how immensely retarded everyone is (and why Diogenes really couldn't find a man anywhere, he really just saw monkeys). Diogenes was the only one around who was ACTUALLY THINKING, he wouldn't accept any word of a propaganda without first thinking about if those words were actually true. He saw something and asked "is it good?". And he came to conclusion that most things are just bullshit. But that's not all: not only did he say something's bullshit -- something most people would just go on doing without end -- he actually just stopped doing the bullshit and by that proved his point. Most people hated (and still hate) him because he just clearly proves them wrong, without any shadow of a doubt, simply by showing them something is unnecessary by living without it. Politicians in suits are just idiotic talking retardheads in expensive suits who just talk talk talk talk and lie and preach huge bullshit without actually doing anything and if someone just clearly shows they are idiots, their only possible "defense" is to discredit the opposition, which is why all the idiots just try to spread hate of Diogenes (and ad hominem of his teaching) based on shallow things like "the guy shit in public + his cloth smells = bad = words false" (but ofc it's actually effective on the population made basically of zombies). Diogenes didn't even have to talk much, he just said "this is bullcrap, look, you can live without it", and then he JUST DID IT like the biggest chad.